Ello loves

Subject: Ello loves Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:21 am

Alrighty, so i'm tired of seeing new recruits join and then fucking leave in an instant. Once I get a break from school i'm going to straighten this shit out. Fuck all of the recruits that join and then leave saying they have a good excuse. When you fucking agree to joining the fucking clan you are becoming family. I do not believe anyone who has been in the clan for a few days and then leaves is reliable. That's all for now.

Subject: Re: Ello loves Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:41 am

gayraidersixz wrote:: Alrighty, so i'm tired of seeing new recruits join and then fucking leave in an instant. Once I get a break from school i'm going to straighten this shit out. Fuck all of the recruits that join and then leave saying they have a good excuse. When you fucking agree to joining the fucking clan you are becoming family. I do not believe anyone who has been in the clan for a few days and then leaves is reliable. That's all for now.

Well first of all, i just wanted to let you know, that of all possible reasons, mine was good enough i believe. I had no idea that my leaders in the cod4 clan im in, was to support 2142 as a main division the next day. And i also agree with you about the fact that many recruits come and go instantly, because i personally had to deal with that myself.

Guest

hey welll maybe instead of blaming the people why not look at the clan yourself.
This is a logical fallacy that we learned in philosophy class today, what a coincidence.

Do you see random memebrs joining our clans and leaving? Do you see random memebrs join KLRS and then leaving the next few days?

No.

Why not look at WHY the people want to leave your clan. What do you do for the clan members? Are you guys even active? Your server is empty praticallly 24/7.

Instead of always blaming the people that are leaving you, why not look at whats wrong with your own clan !

Professional Knifer Posts : 280 Join date : 2008-07-29

Lovely logic there Vz0, but she is only talking about 2 members. If you talk about more people than that then your information is incorrect as every clan has lost members. This is like when a kid learns a new vocabulary word and tries to use it every time they can.

If you want an example of a logical fallacy, lets look at zix and why he left. He left because "our clan is inactive," but he himself was one of the people that were inactive, which made him a part of the problem. There were multiple people that joined BA for this reason from both GW and KLRS, all not realizing that they were part of the problem. Now, one of BA's members have left because BA is inactive. People clan hop because of percieved "problems" with the clan that they are in, but they dont realize that they themselves are part of the problem. Now there is a logical fallacy for you.

Edit: By the way Vz0, if you were trying to be like the kid that just learned a new vocabulary word, you should have been more specific about which logical fallacy it was.

Vz0 wrote:: Do you see random memebrs join KLRS and then leaving the next few days?
No.

I wasn't aware that you were up to date on everything KLRS. Well, it's obvious you arn't because they have had a case or two of this happening.

Subject: Re: Ello loves Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:51 pm

hey virginzero shut the fuck up before i ban you from the forums mother fucker

Professional Knifer Posts : 280 Join date : 2008-07-29

Cora, give him a break. It's no fault of his own if his logic sucks. Oh wait, maybe it is?

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Soldier wrote:: Lovely logic there Vz0, but she is only talking about 2 members.

great. now read this

Quote :: Alrighty, so i'm tired of seeing new recruits join and then fucking leave in an instant. Once I get a break from school i'm going to straighten this shit out. Fuck all of the recruits that join and then leave saying they have a good excuse. When you fucking agree to joining the fucking clan you are becoming family. I do not believe anyone who has been in the clan for a few days and then leaves is reliable. That's all for now.

apparently SHES making a big deal out of it. Shes saying it as if "alot" of people are joining than instantly leaving. I made my argument based on her facts.

Quote :: If you talk about more people than that then your information is incorrect as every clan has lost members.

Oh? Okay so lets explore "your so intellectually correct logic".
Im a girl and 50 boys have cheated on me in the past 2 years. Yes 50.
But my friend has boys that cheats on her too.
There the problem is definitely with the boys and I am definitely not the problem?

Now read that, read that again. That is exactly what your saying.

GWclan has many members joining and then leaving almost immediately.
Someone left the KLRS clan a few days ago.
Therefor the problem must be with the members and definitely not with the clan

*note* again Im basing this off grey's post

Quote :: Alrighty, so i'm tired of seeing new recruits join and then fucking leave in an instant.

As you can see, she said shes tired. By that I presume she implied that there are ALOT of recruits leaving THUS she is getting tired?

Thank for telling me that its only actually 2 people that left.
Apparently that is not Grey thinks. So perhaps you should talk to grey not me.
As I am merely getting a point across to grey.

Quote :: If you want an example of a logical fallacy, lets look at zix and why he left. He left because "our clan is inactive," but he himself was one of the people that were inactive, which made him a part of the problem. There were multiple people that joined BA for this reason from both GW and KLRS, all not realizing that they were part of the problem. Now, one of BA's members have left because BA is inactive. People clan hop because of percieved "problems" with the clan that they are in, but they dont realize that they themselves are part of the problem. Now there is a logical fallacy for you.

although that is just an example, I would like to note you that
The problem posed by grey was that "recruits are joining and then leaving right away"
If the problem was "recruits are joining , and then complaining the clan is inactive, thus leaving" then yes your example would come nicely into play (perhaps). Maybe your members really aren't active? I dont know. Anyways that was just your example so w/e.

Quote :: Edit: By the way Vz0, if you were trying to be like the kid that just learned a new vocabulary word,

except Im not. This is pratically common sense to me. it should be for most people with a brain. Im merely pointing out the coincidence of the teacher revisiting this area today at school.

Quote :: you should have been more specific about which logical fallacy it was.

im sorry, i thought it was obvious? And I dont stuff my brian with names of logical fallacies.
what? so i can go around telling ppl that blabla is incorrect based on blabla logical falacy?
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Quote :

Vz0 wrote:: Do you see random memebrs join KLRS and then leaving the next few days?
No.

I wasn't aware that you were up to date on everything KLRS. Well, it's obvious you arn't because they have had a case or two of this happening.

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yeah Im not up to date. That was my mistake.
It was just a random clan name I pulled out.
However do look at most of the well known clans out there. On average people do not leave so quickly.

Yet your clan does have this problem ( as posed by grey , which we now know is an extreme exaggeration thanks to soldier). So perhaps you should look at the clan itself and not always flamming the members.

Might I also add on a side note; the fact that your piratically recruiting everybody that applies the quick leave should be of no suprise to you.

1.) its not like you have any super outstanding knifers, even if you do lets say iuno.. pye iuno im just saying. They are hardly on. People wont be impressed.
2.) your server is fucking empty 24/7
3.) the forum is fucking dead. Alot of the people still viewing this forum, are ironically people that ARENT In the clan. Aka me, venom, papa, coop, whoever. Thats not saying GW memebrs dont viisit there forums, but it would make mroe sense if ALL GW members vists the forum once in a while.

If you guys really want a "family clan" as grey proposed. Then for the fuck of sakes, dont recruit every fucking guy that asks you. Look @ =WC= and maybe learn a thing or two.

* AGAIN this whole thing is based on what "grey" said.

Quote :: Cora, give him a break. It's no fault of his own if his logic sucks. Oh wait, maybe it is?

I love how you basically claim yourself to be correct right after posting as if your post is 100% correct and completely undeniable when in fact every intention in your reply was off either
1.) logically
2.) off the topic

and if anything I was only trying to solve your problem grey.
You posted your problem on the forum. I attempted to give you the solution. you did not only deny the solution without understanding, you took me as an enemy.

you know what an enemy would've said here instead of the bolder part

Quote :: Instead of always blaming the people that are leaving you, why not look at whats wrong with your own clan !

so so.. much.

Professional Knifer Posts : 280 Join date : 2008-07-29

LOL, Recruit every person that asks? The people who apply are directed here by GW members. As you pointed out, our server is practically empty 24/7, so where are they getting our site from? Not from our server, so obviously someone pointed them here. We don't give the site to people who we dont want to recruit.

Cora's post shows nothing that imples that a lot of people join and then leave, infact it is very rare, which is why she went off on them because it was two people that did it at the same time. What she is "tired" of is people leaving for BS reasons, which is where my example comes into play.

The reason I wanted you to point out which logical fallacy it was was because I was unabled to find out which one you were even trying to point at by reading your post.

Oh, and I don't care how many guys cheat on one girl, it is never the girls fault. If a guy does not want the girl then he should break up with her, not go behind her back with another girl.

But, my opinion has no say in this, but I can say your example is terrible. Your example is nothing like what is happening. So let's fix your example:
Im a girl and in the past 2 years, I have gone out with 50 boys, of those 50 boys, 2 have cheated on me. Yes 2.
But my friend has had a few boys cheat on her also.
There the problem is definitely with the boys and I am definitely not the problem?

Edit:

Vz0 wrote:: 1.) its not like you have any super outstanding knifers, even if you do lets say iuno.. pye iuno im just saying.

We could say the same think about every other knife clan. The only "outstanding" person in Xtreme is papa.

Guest

Quote :: What she is "tired" of is people leaving for BS reasons

except grey said:

Quote :: Alrighty, so i'm tired of seeing new recruits join and then fucking leave in an instant.

read that 3x soldier. She states clearly that she is tired of new recruits joining and leaving in an instant. As you can tell, i seriously cannot simplify that sentence anymore.
Its not BS reasons. its the fact that people just join and go.

From here I can tell that "alot" of people have joined and left.
Now if that was 2. Then you should be telling grey to chill.

Im commenting based on what grey said, regardless if that the truth or not.

Quote :: Cora's post shows nothing that imples that a lot of people join and then leave,

of course not.....

Quote :: Alrighty, so i'm tired of seeing new recruits join and then fucking leave in an instant.

despite that.. of course not. right?

Professional Knifer Posts : 280 Join date : 2008-07-29

You quote alot as if it was typed somewhere. It was not so quit quoting it. I know what she said, but when I post I actually pay attention to what is happening. You can see who we reruit just as much as we can. Your not stupid, so quit ignoring "facts" and making "facts" where there are none.

I admit, you caught me there as she did imply that alot of people are leaving. But I am also taking the real "facts" and putting 2 and 2 together. And because I knew what she meant, and took what she said in context, I knew the truth. You should do the same.

Edit: And to push further the point of our clan having "outstanding" knifers, I would point out that if you took all the "outstanding" knifers and put them in one clan, you would have one of the smallest clans in the knifing community.

Sharpened Blade Posts : 57 Join date : 2008-12-30

I've found the real problem:

Virgo starts fights no reasons whatsoever.

Soldier defends people and retaliates in arguments that are not his own.

I think we've found the REAL problems here.

Professional Knifer Posts : 280 Join date : 2008-07-29

Papa, here is a fact, you should be on xfire more often.

Guest

Okay I admit. I like to forum chat. My idol is odin. And I want to be like him one day; king of forums.

But hey I started this un-offensively. Well at least I didn't mean to offend.

If you re-read my first post, it was just me telling Grey to reflect on the clan and not just hating the people that are leaving (especially those with good reason like coop, feel sry for him)

I did not atk the clan, i did not atk any of the members, I did not cal anyone stupid, I ddint do any of that crap.