ADMIN abuse

LOL Jellybeans still crying. U tried to knife me when i cap the first flag of Cap team, ya i killed u with a gun =( After that, u cried all the time for so shit about how i killed you and bla bla. And u shoted someone for How i dont care reason. I was supposed to kick you, but u are so stupid, this why i banned you for A DAY ! I abuse so much =/ And for these other guys who i banned, they were warned before, and i banned them for a week. So, excuse my bad english

ooo oooooopssssss i feel stupid but i wasnt capping roadblock so u still banned me for no reason

I wasn't going to point out that you wern't on the banlist, I just wanted to point out Vz0's stupid arguments.

Edit: because I want vz0 to read my response. Click here.

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I was not disagreeing with you, I was pointing out the huge holes in your logic, and the fact that you contradicted yourself.

except I didn't contradict yourself. You just wanted me to.
project was caught using an aimbot + didn't admit it
jellybean was "said to have broken the rules" + doens't admit it.

theres a GREAT difference between solid proof holding you and just words of an Admin.

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Vz0 wrote:

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Other than screenshots, where is the proof that someone was really hacking?

rofl #1
Yes because ever since videos were invented nobody uses screenies anymore right?

PBBans uses screenshots, and it is the only "absolute" way pb knows someone is or was hacking. The rest of the stuff can make mistakes. Pbbans does not take videos. Good job at seeing my point.

You obviously didn't get my sarcasm. I was implying that screenshots is still the most efficient way as proof. If you think it doesn't count, then what does.

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Vz0 wrote:

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Pbbans is not perfect

rofl #2
My name's Vz0
Why dont you point that out too mr.obvious

Wtih your fugly logic its safe to say everything is useless in the world? I mean they aren't perfect. And perfection is the requirement of life right ???

Wow, exactly what I was hinting at. . . . You are just too blind to see that I was implying that we have admins in place for a reason, and because cocoune has no clue what jelly is talking about, we must take the word of the admin who banned him. (Not papa) Sooooooo, you're implying going against exactly what you just said to me when you tell me he should be unbanned.

Again if your saying we should take cocoune's word for it then that eliminates the very purpoes of the thread which is "admin abuse". You've already presumed that Cocoune is telling the truth. Meaning were going back to the
"you got banned because you got banned" argument.

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Vz0 wrote:

How many intentional rulebreakers have you banned?
How many actually came on the forums to appeal?

Your logic is the one that fails. You are just too blind to see it.

How many intentional hackers has pbbans banned?
How many actually appealed those bans on pbbans?

We all know tong hacked, as we saw on the 5 screenshots that go with his ban. Did you also know he appealed his ban? WOW!!! He must be innocent!

except thats different.
Tong used an aimbot. you can use an aimbot and not get caught. People may think your just good.
But when you SHOOT someone and CAP IN FRONT OF AN OBVIOUS ADMIN... that is called retardism. Now look @ the guy. Does he sound THAT retarded?

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[quote="Vz0"]If he was an intentional rule breaker do you think he'd do it right in front of an admin and then go on the forum to beg for mercy just because this is all so fun?

If tong was an intentional hacker, do you think he'd do it on a pb enabled server with pbbans in the background and then go on pbbans.com to appeal his ban just because it is all so fun?

ffsakes i feel like im talking to a......
NO SHIT HES GOING TO USE THE AIMBOT IN A PB ENABLED SERVER. Who the fuck uses an aimbot in a non PB server.
Again, using an aimbot is far different from shooting a guy next to an admin aka BAN ME.

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Vz0 wrote:

except PB bans has all the proof, the time the hack the violation. If you really want to go on this road about proofs then in fact everything in reality can be fake.

If your going to to do that, then I am going to do this. . . .
Let's call our banlist pbbans, lets the time the ban was issued "the time the hack," and lets call the reason for the ban "the violation." There is "all the proof."

except it has a screenshot which you yourself said...
nice try.

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Vz0 wrote:

If there was solid proof... ban him flame him kill him make fun of him.

If pbbans is not perfect, then you have no "solid proof" on project. But you were flaming him?

........ lol r u serious?

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I am only using your arguments against you. If my logic fails, look where I got it from.

except your not. You not anything near.
My logic is that
If you were PROVED hacking = ADMIT IT
Jellybean IS NOT PROVED hacking = he has NOTHING to ADMIT

Your basically telling me that PBBANS isn't perfect but we trust it, therefor just because the admin isn't perfect doens't mean we should treat it any less.

erm.. im not sure if you've had your daily dosage of medicine but WAKE THE FUK UP. we live on planet earth. nothing is perfect.
What we care about is how CLOSE it is to perfection.

and no im not going to spend any more seconds of my life explaining to you why we should trust PBBans over an Admin. You can go to school for that.

k close the fucking topic guys.

his ban was for a day.

ffsakes ownknifer can you just say so next time you ban someone

like

!ban jellyknifer 1 day

saves us all this...

Arguing with you has proven pointless, you obviously do not grasp what I am saying.

I said screenshots were the only absolute proof of hacking. Everything else can be faulty. Just as PBBans is not perfect, Admins are not perfect. We trust pbbans because it is the best we have, we trust admins because they are the best we have.

So when you say I should not trust the admins we have put in place, then you are saying because our admins are not perfect, we should not trust them. So if we don't trust our admins because they are not perfect, should we still trust pbbans when it is not perfect? Yes, we trust pbbans, because it is the best we have, the same as we trust our admins, because they are the best we have.

Half of the stuff you said, would go away if you would READ what I said.

When I say "PBBans uses screenshots, and it is the only "absolute" way pb knows someone is or was hacking," I am saying that screenshots are the only non faulty way of knowing someone hacks. So when you say "I was implying that screenshots is still the most efficient way as proof," then you are agreeing with me.

When I was refering to cocoune, I was doing so because Jelly told us to go ask him, you would know that if you READ all of the topic.

You are right, shooting in front of an admin is retarded. It is also retarded to copy your friends name as a joke, then adopt the name perminently. So either he was lieing, or he was doing something "retarded."

And I am using your logic, as you have agreed with me, both pbbans and our admins are not perfect. Sooo,
project = not proved hacking because pbbans is not perfect.
jelly = not proved breaking rules because admins are not perfect.

I never thought I would have to spell out what I was saying. . . . But, aparently it is over your head.

I am saying: PBBans is not perfect, but we trust it because it is the best we have, admins are not perfect, but we trust them because they are the best we have.

"erm.. im not sure if you've had your daily dosage of medicine but WAKE THE FUK UP. we live on planet earth. nothing is perfect.
What we care about is how CLOSE it is to perfection."

Right you are, and both pbbans and our admins are as close to perfect as we can get.

"and no im not going to spend any more seconds of my life explaining to you why we should trust PBBans over an Admin. You can go to school for that."

We don't trust PBBans over an admin, we don't trust admins over PBBans. We trust PBBans to deal with hackers, and we trust admins to deal with rule breakers. You should know they serve different purposes, but if not "you can go to school for that."

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Arguing with you has proven pointless, you obviously do not grasp what I am saying.

haha how ironic

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I said screenshots were the only absolute proof of hacking. Everything else can be faulty.

and does it matter? Theres a screenshot of him using an aimbot. Thats alll thats enough. And when was the last time PBBans had a screenshot of someone and it ended up being a mistake? Hmm since never.

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Just as PBBans is not perfect, Admins are not perfect.
We trust pbbans because it is the best we have, we trust admins because they are the best we have.

except admins are humans and not designed to admin. They make mistakes. Plentiful mistakes. Compare the probability of admin mistake to PBBans mistake is like 1million:1
(isn't this common sense...)

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So when you say I should not trust the admins we have put in place, then you are saying because our admins are not perfect,

uh no. Admisn aren't perfect ANYWAYS. NOTHINGS PERFECT. The thread right now is saying that the Admin made a mistake. If you presummed that the Admin is correct from the very start then your not even taking Jelly's argument into consideration. Which is back to the You banned because your banned argument.

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we should not trust them. So if we don't trust our admins because they are not perfect, should we still trust pbbans when it is not perfect? Yes, we trust pbbans, because it is the best we have, the same as we trust our admins, because they are the best we have.

except for fuck sakes PBBans is a fuck load more accurate smart ass.

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Half of the stuff you said, would go away if you would READ what I said.

except you've failed to understand even your own logic.

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When I say "PBBans uses screenshots, and it is the only "absolute" way pb knows someone is or was hacking," I am saying that screenshots are the only non faulty way of knowing someone hacks. So when you say "I was implying that screenshots is still the most efficient way as proof," then you are agreeing with me.

no, PBBans does not only use screenshots. It has its own hack tool detection mechanism. And its better than an admin.. trust me.
This is the reason why so many games hire Punk Buster to do their job and not cocoune.
and what you said was this :

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Other than screenshots, where is the proof that someone was really hacking?

you've piratically said the answer to yourself. The screenshot is the hard proof. PBBans dont make up screenshots for fun and then curse everyone. And yes your statement following that was of course PBBAns isn't perfect and admins aren't perfect therefor they are both = and therefor we should trust both equally
-.- /fail

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You are right, shooting in front of an admin is retarded. It is also retarded to copy your friends name as a joke, then adopt the name perminently. So either he was lieing, or he was doing something "retarded."

woah woah slow down. Whats this copying a friends name?
So your already presuming that jelly's friend hacked and jelly decided to take up the name after? Um sorry. wheres you get this? out of your own ___ agian?

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And I am using your logic,

im sorry.. your not. And fyi, my very logic is simple common sense. don't make it look like im thinking desperately hard to argue. Im not.

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as you have agreed with me, both pbbans and our admins are not perfect. Sooo,
project = not proved hacking because pbbans is not perfect.
jelly = not proved breaking rules because admins are not perfect.

here comes the fail logic once more.
Il follow this and make my own statement.
Soldier is not perfect
Jesuslover is not a perfect knifer
Callmepapa is not a perfect knifer
Bright is not ....
Scrapper is not.....
Im not perfect ....

therfor we are all the same wohooo !!! nobodys better than anybody. Because we are all "not perfect right?"

-------serously soldier, think before you humiliate yourself like that.

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I never thought I would have to spell out what I was saying. . . . But, aparently it is over your head.

again how ironic

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I am saying: PBBans is not perfect, but we trust it because it is the best we have, admins are not perfect, but we trust them because they are the best we have.

and you just failed to understand one is a human the other is a program. btw what grade are you in? (just curious)

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"erm.. im not sure if you've had your daily dosage of medicine but WAKE THE FUK UP. we live on planet earth. nothing is perfect.
What we care about is how CLOSE it is to perfection."

Right you are, and both pbbans and our admins are as close to perfect as we can get.

lmao. cocoune is the closest to perfect we can get?
are you fucking me?

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"and no im not going to spend any more seconds of my life explaining to you why we should trust PBBans over an Admin. You can go to school for that."

We don't trust PBBans over an admin, we don't trust admins over PBBans. We trust PBBans to deal with hackers, and we trust admins to deal with rule breakers. You should know they serve different purposes, but if not "you can go to school for that."

except your the one making the argument that since PBBans aint perfect & Admins aint perfect = we should trust both just as much.
When clearly as you've just said they first of all DO DIFFERENT JOBS and second of all ONE IS A PROGRAM one is a HUMAN.

gosh how many times have I said that in this argument.

You think pbbans is better than humans, but you seem to forget it was designed by humans. (Who, as YOU have pointed out, are not perfect) People who are not perfect can not create something perfect. And we know pbbans is not perfect, if you don't know that then go talk with darkne55 who was banned due to a false positive.

You guys are hilarious - The truth behind this argument lies in this:

Only me, cocoune, and ownknifer should have been the ones to respond. We witnessed the event and we know EXACTLY what happened.

How'd this turn into a debate?

lol
well uh... humans' aren't perfect, humans created computers. Computers aren't perfect.

Therefor computers = humans

wohooo !!! some more fail logic !

soldier since human admins and PBBans are the same why dont you tell EA to start hiring Cocoune to detect cheaters instead of paying thousands for punkbuster.

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You guys are hilarious - The truth behind this argument lies in this:

Only me, cocoune, and ownknifer should have been the ones to respond. We witnessed the event and we know EXACTLY what happened.

How'd this turn into a debate?

yo papa you know im not trying to cross you. BUt seriously this guy his name's jellybean. How much more innocent can it get !! hes just so cute.

this turned into a debate
when soldier arrived and proposed that because we trust PBBans so much we should trust Cocoune because he is similar to PBBans and is the closest to perfect (lmao i know)

Vz0 wrote:

lol
well uh... humans' aren't perfect, humans created computers. Computers aren't perfect.

Therefor computers = humans

wohooo !!! some more fail logic !

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You guys are hilarious - The truth behind this argument lies in this:

Only me, cocoune, and ownknifer should have been the ones to respond. We witnessed the event and we know EXACTLY what happened.

How'd this turn into a debate?

yo papa you know im not trying to cross you. BUt seriously this guy his name's jellybean. How much more innocent can it get !! hes just so cute.

this turned into a debate
when soldier arrived and proposed that because we trust PBBans so much we should trust Cocoune because he is similar to PBBans and is the closest to perfect (lmao i know)

Pye brought something up to me, is your first language not English? He is probably right if you think im saying computers = human. All I said was because humans designed pbbans, pbbans is not perfect, nothing more. Anything you take beyond that is your thinking, not mine.

vzo plz just shut up ok?

Vz0 wrote:

BUt seriously this guy his name's jellybean. How much more innocent can it get !! hes just so cute.

brightnshiney<- and I'm a dick

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Pye brought something up to me, is your first language not English? He is probably right if you think im saying computers = human. All I said was because humans designed pbbans, pbbans is not perfect, nothing more. Anything you take beyond that is your thinking, not mine.

except thats not what your trying to say. Your trying to say that
because I trust PBBans and I was talking towards Project, then I should trust Cocoune and do the same for jelly.
any normal common sense person would see that.
And no, English isn't my first language. But why would you care? it sure beats yours. So far all of your arguments have been involving
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PBBans could be wrong but your treated it like it was perfect .. then you should do the same for cocoune. "

seriously if anything that is just retardism. everybody knows that PBBans was designed to catch hackers and does not have human feelings to intefere.

and seriously before insulting my intelligence look at all this shit you wrote

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project = not proved hacking because pbbans is not perfect.
jelly = not proved breaking rules because admins are not perfect.

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I am saying: PBBans is not perfect, but we trust it because it is the best we have, admins are not perfect, but we trust them because they are the best we have.

should i continue?
I probably need to due to your thick head.

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admins are as close to perfect as we can get.

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So when you say I should not trust the admins we have put in place, then you are saying because our admins are not perfect, we should not trust them. So if we don't trust our admins because they are not perfect, should we still trust pbbans when it is not perfect? Yes, we trust pbbans, because it is the best we have, the same as we trust our admins, because they are the best we have.

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Couldn't we say the same thing about pbbans? Other than screenshots, where is the proof that someone was really hacking?

and he follows with this

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we have no proof that project hacks, therefore he has no reason to admit anything.

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because cocoune has no clue what jelly is talking about, we must take the word of the admin who banned him.

^ example of he is banned because he is banned.
You've already chosen your side before the start of the argument.

until you ca make up excuses for all of this crap, don't talk.

and in the end of course

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Your logic is the one that fails. You are just too blind to see it.

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brightnshiney<- and I'm a dick

nah thats a sweet name. bright & shiny !

Now I understand why you are unable to grasp what I am saying.

I never said trust cocoune with jelly, jelly did.

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Thanks. cocoune is also an admin on that server hes a fairly good admin and I think he could be a witness but idk.

Like I said, your problem is you do not READ. If you did read, you would know why I questioned cocoune and why it is relevant.

-Locked (Because I do not want to waste my time reading any more of Vz0's posts when he does not pay me the same courtesy)